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Lenrir Andven Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation 1	Posted - 2012.03.27 10:34:00 - [1] - Quote Mecinia Lua wrote: Lexmana wrote: Mecinia Lua wrote: I think its a good apology and it was the right thing to do. I listened to some of the streams from fanfest, I kinda had turned off the alliance one where the event occurred as it was clear most folks were drunk to me thus I didn't see this play out. Ultimately though with the bad press etc, CCP will probably have little choice but to remove him from the CSM. However in light of the apology I hope that he does not receive a permanent ban from the game. You didn't see the event but you want him to resign? That is the nature of the mob. Sometimes the few or even the one must be sacrificed to serve a greater good. I didn't watch the alliance roundtable because in the beginning many of them were clearly drunk thus I do believe it was the alcohol talking. I didn't think anything good would come of listening to a bunch of drunks is why I didn't listen to it, I have though seen the snippet in question since. If CCP doesn't remove him from the CSM they'll be crucified by the overly liberal media. EVE could become the Dungeons & Dragons of the 21st century, where D&D was largely preached against etc in the later part of the 20th century, because of a few. That damage could undo the good they've done since Crucible.
Lenrir Andven Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation 1	Posted - 2012.03.27 10:35:00 - [2] - Quote Edit: the hell it broke my post
Lenrir Andven Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation 1	Posted - 2012.03.27 12:47:00 - [3] - Quote Daviclond wrote: Kara Roideater wrote: Daviclond wrote: I don't really see anybody outside of eve caring about this issue, unless you have a personal bias against Mittens the story doesn't really have any legs. It's all over the gaming media and since cyber-bullying is a hot news issue in the UK and US at least it is the kind of thing that could easily seep into the mainstream. I really hope it doesn't though but it is the kind of thing people outside eve care about because it can be fitted into a bunch of neat little boxes and exploited in pursuit of a variety of obnoxious agendas. The story doesn't have the legs to go further than the few detail-scarce stories already up there. The offender has apologised, the victim has said he doesn't care (and gotten pretty rich) and there's nowhere else to go with it. Cyber bullying is typically referring to kids at school being hounded by bullies and then harrassed when they return home, it doesn't encompass a 30-something year old man getting blown up in an internet spaceship game. The story doesn't matter anywhere except the echo chamber of the eveo forums, where everyone who would like to see Mittani shot down are desperately posting that it must be so. To twist this knife of grey further, if you really want to class cyber-bullying, then EVE online itself is a cyber-bullying game. Think about it, you find a target, blow him up, keep tabs on him and repeatedly blow him up. By 'common sense', this is merely griefing. But to the carebears here baying for Mittani's blood, it might as well be classed as cyber-bullying as well.
Lenrir Andven Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation 1	Posted - 2012.03.27 12:54:00 - [4] - Quote stavi shaushu wrote: If CCP does not do anything, the victim could start legal actions and sue both Alex Gianturco and CCP. EDIT. It will not be about internet spaceships then. Do you EVEN know the victim? As In know him in real life? For all we know, the sob story he sent to us may of been a lie. Maybe he is actually a 12 year old kid living in his basement who was worried that, by losing his ships constantly, he needed to think up of a daring lie.
Lenrir Andven Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation 3	Posted - 2012.03.27 12:59:00 - [5] - Quote Kara Roideater wrote: Lenrir Andven wrote: To twist this knife of grey further, if you really want to class cyber-bullying, then EVE online itself is a cyber-bullying game. Think about it, you find a target, blow him up, keep tabs on him and repeatedly blow him up. By 'common sense', this is merely griefing. But to the carebears here baying for Mittani's blood, it might as well be classed as cyber-bullying as well. How the media ends up (ab)using it doesn't really depend on what it 'is', so much as on what it can be presented as. And if they do pick it up it will certainly be presented in the context of cyber-bullying as this is a term currently much beloved by the media. In the UK at least, this rubric is not restricted to stuff involving kids but the additional dimension of it happening in a 'game' is bound to reinforce the 'think of the children!' aspect of any story. Pretty much. I am from the UK as well and the 'cyber-bullying' craze has really been picking up pace, with all that stuff about facebook and what not. That is why when I compare what is classed as 'cyber-bullying' to what we consider as 'griefing', then the grey line is really that much more grey. I wouldn't be surprised if the UK will ban all MMO's with the way they wish to 'protect' their children from anything 'wrong.'
Lenrir Andven Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation 5	Posted - 2012.03.27 13:30:00 - [6] - Quote Kara Roideater wrote: Lenrir Andven wrote: Pretty much. I am from the UK as well and the 'cyber-bullying' craze has really been picking up pace, with all that stuff about facebook and what not. That is why when I compare what is classed as 'cyber-bullying' to what we consider as 'griefing', then the grey line is really that much more grey. I wouldn't be surprised if the UK will ban all MMO's with the way they wish to 'protect' their children from anything 'wrong.' Certainly some people have that view of griefing in general. But I think in this particular case the line is not so grey. The person was held up as a target in an out of game context and with the reason for the targeting being claims he made about his state of well-being outside the game. So both the platform used to target him and the reasons given were not game-based, although the methods proposed for targeting him were. But it is pretty clear that the possible upside of griefing him was meant to be that it would, hopefully, make him miserable in real life. Now, whilst that last goal might be a normal griefing goal, I think the RL context and platform amke this look like the game is actually incidental rather than central, such that considering it merely to be griefing someone in game misses out a lot of the details. I understand what you mean, but what bothers me is the lack of information that we have received about this 'victim'. Other than the e-mail (which could of been forged) and his contact name, this all could of been an elaborate ruse, a stunt, in which Mittens wished to play out because, well let's be honest, they couldn't do another 'GSF history' session every single fanfest. Now if it was true then yes, as you have stated, the upside to this would of been the intent to make his life miserable, I for one would understand that since I am, after all, a Goonie. Now would I class what he stated as cyber-bullying? No, I wouldn't. In fact for what he said, it could of been a whole lot worse. He said a simple quip, a soundbyte, nothing more. When compared to far more 'elaborate' insults and quips, what he said was really not that bad. Short-sighted? Of course, though I doubt anyone would of expected this kind of backlash from what was said. I think his apology is more than enough really, those that are asking for more is actually causing more harm than good.
Lenrir Andven Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation 5	Posted - 2012.03.27 13:45:00 - [7] - Quote RougeOperator wrote: Lenrir Andven wrote: Kara Roideater wrote: Lenrir Andven wrote: Pretty much. I am from the UK as well and the 'cyber-bullying' craze has really been picking up pace, with all that stuff about facebook and what not. That is why when I compare what is classed as 'cyber-bullying' to what we consider as 'griefing', then the grey line is really that much more grey. I wouldn't be surprised if the UK will ban all MMO's with the way they wish to 'protect' their children from anything 'wrong.' Certainly some people have that view of griefing in general. But I think in this particular case the line is not so grey. The person was held up as a target in an out of game context and with the reason for the targeting being claims he made about his state of well-being outside the game. So both the platform used to target him and the reasons given were not game-based, although the methods proposed for targeting him were. But it is pretty clear that the possible upside of griefing him was meant to be that it would, hopefully, make him miserable in real life. Now, whilst that last goal might be a normal griefing goal, I think the RL context and platform amke this look like the game is actually incidental rather than central, such that considering it merely to be griefing someone in game misses out a lot of the details. I understand what you mean, but what bothers me is the lack of information that we have received about this 'victim'. Other than the e-mail (which could of been forged) and his contact name, this all could of been an elaborate ruse, a stunt, in which Mittens wished to play out because, well let's be honest, they couldn't do another 'GSF history' session every single fanfest. Now if it was true then yes, as you have stated, the upside to this would of been the intent to make his life miserable, I for one would understand that since I am, after all, a Goonie. Now would I class what he stated as cyber-bullying? No, I wouldn't. In fact for what he said, it could of been a whole lot worse. He said a simple quip, a soundbyte, nothing more. When compared to far more 'elaborate' insults and quips, what he said was really not that bad. Short-sighted? Of course, though I doubt anyone would of expected this kind of backlash from what was said. I think his apology is more than enough really, those that are asking for more is actually causing more harm than good. Stop trying to spin this into being about just the victim. Its about every player and those that have yet to play the game that are yet to come. Its a precedent setting moment. Its about the fact that if allowed to get away with it. What about the next person whom might not be stable enough to not be pushed to far. Calling for the lynching of a person like the mittani did requires he step down from the CSM. A person that calls basically for the in real life death of another player should not represent the players. You can sit there and spin spin spin the story as much as you want . Its not going to change that a company cannot have such a person seen as a representative of their game or the games players. Goon culture needs to wake up and realize that this was too far. The line was crossed that should not be crossed. The game is already perceived as a ruthless culture, so this does nothing but temper this fact. It's hardly ground-breaking really. Like I already stated somewhere down the line, it is no one's fault that the victims of those whose ship was turned into dust is mentally unstable. Who could of known? Unless you know the guy in RL you can only get information through whatever they tell you. Also Mittani, in no way, called for his death. He just told people to message him, give him a 'holla'. It isn't too hard to read what he meant. He is a bit mad, yes, but he is not one of these terrorists preaching death to all 'infidels.' Also calling us the spin doctors, that's pretty amusing. The folks that are spinning this out of control is the bleeding heart liberals who think anything which may be deemed as 'politically incorrect' is grounds for protest and anger. Goon culture is well and truly awake, it is currently giggling at the absurdity of this witch hunt.
Lenrir Andven Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation 5	Posted - 2012.03.27 13:55:00 - [8] - Quote Dranchela wrote: XxTheKmanxX wrote: damn people are still mad about this crap? Some people find it difficult to get out of father's basement. Fixed - Don't be hasty on equality just yet citizen.
Lenrir Andven Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation 6	Posted - 2012.03.27 13:56:00 - [9] - Quote Kara Roideater wrote: Lorren Canada wrote: i was really hoping for something special on pg 100 Have a biscuit. Or a cookie if you're a yank. Could use one of those jaffa cakes right about now, with a cup of tea.
Lenrir Andven Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation 7	Posted - 2012.03.27 14:14:00 - [10] - Quote Master Andrew wrote: Lenrir Andven wrote: Kara Roideater wrote: Lorren Canada wrote: i was really hoping for something special on pg 100 Have a biscuit. Or a cookie if you're a yank. Could use one of those jaffa cakes right about now, with a cup of tea. hmmmmm Jaffa cakes ----- \o/ but its too hot for tea - how about a milkshake - all the boys can come to my yard best post in about 98 pages of this thread ty No problem citizen, all in a day's work. Though I do agree, much too warm for tea.

Lenrir Andven Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation 7	Posted - 2012.03.27 14:21:00 - [11] - Quote Professor Alphane wrote: Lenrir Andven wrote: Master Andrew wrote: hmmmmm Jaffa cakes ----- \o/ but its too hot for tea - how about a milkshake - all the boys can come to my yard best post in about 98 pages of this thread ty No problem citizen, all in a day's work. Though I do agree, much too warm for tea. True nice spring so far Yeah, can't wait for this Friday, got 3 week to sit in my backyard and relax in the sun.
Lenrir Andven Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation 7	Posted - 2012.03.27 14:25:00 - [12] - Quote Keen Fallsword wrote: Is this true that Americans have problems with alcohol ? Of course. The Americans can be quite the feral brutes, but they have uses to the English Gentleman.
Lenrir Andven Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation 8	Posted - 2012.03.27 14:32:00 - [13] - Quote Fidelium Mortis wrote: Posting in epic thread - and adding little substance like the majority of the posts. I think the discussion about tea and crumpets contained substance.
Lenrir Andven Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation 11	Posted - 2012.03.27 14:57:00 - [14] - Quote Taiwanistan wrote: just come out and say it mittani should resign because goons ganked your macks because he shitcanned your space barbie gay bar because cfc evicted your regions because he nerfed your supercaps and titans because you got recruitment scammed because you was a goon hater all along and this is the only time when you can do something about your impotent rage and hatred for him, kick a man while he is down is how youse bitchess roll ya'll bitchessses aint shite Hold on, we like kicking a man while he is down too. I think this means the pubbies are starting to adopt goon tactics!
Lenrir Andven Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation 11	Posted - 2012.03.27 15:03:00 - [15] - Quote Andrea Roche wrote: geez. I go missing for 2 days and eve implodes! The Mittani made a mistake and he appologised for it. No need to crusify him to the stake. I dont particularly like the guy nor his policies but he has recognized the error in his ways. Time to let it go. Spread the love, but kill the goons! Exactly. Why don't all you forum warriors 'protest' by invading VFK, we will be sure to welcome you with open arms.
Lenrir Andven Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation 18	Posted - 2012.03.28 14:44:00 - [16] - Quote Come back here after sleeping. 81 EXTRA PAGES. What the hell is wrong with you all? If it wasn't for work, I would be sitting in the glorious sun in Southern England, no doubt having a BBQ and drinking a milkshake.
Lenrir Andven Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation 19	Posted - 2012.03.28 15:19:00 - [17] - Quote Jade Constantine wrote: Daviclond wrote: Jade I'm not going to post the .gif of you here (the last time I did I got a year long forum ban) but suffice to say you probably shouldn't be throwing stones when it comes to looks! You got a year long ban for posting a picture of me in rl and you don't think Alexander Gianturco deserves to even be punished for calling on 10,000 goons to harrass a fellow player into suicide. Thats some pretty heady stuff you are smoking there. So the picture was so terrifying that they banned him for a year? Must of been quite the picture.
Lenrir Andven Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation 19	Posted - 2012.03.28 15:26:00 - [18] - Quote Rodj Blake wrote: Cyber SGB wrote: I didn't know who this guy was until fanfest. Sure, getting drunk and spouting off like this was inappropriate behavior. He has apologized for it and if he curbs his behavior in the future, done deal. There is no need for him to resign or do anything else that would satisfy certain people's lust for blood. I am seeing a whole bunch of people on these forums who should be ashamed of themselves. I am very shocked to be reading people actually calling for lawyers and law enforcement to get involved. If you call his behavior wrong, how can you justify trying to ruin this person's life over such a trivial matter? It is trivial. It is obvious to me that most of you wait for any opportunity to do harm to this guy in real life. All because of this video game. It appears that people have gone stupid in this day and age. If an elected politician (even a politician as insignificant as a parish councillor) did what he did, then he would be called upon to resign and might end up getting the party whip withdrawn. It just so happens that he was elected to represent a consituency larger than many politicians'. If anyone representing a company did what he did, then he would also be called upon to resign and if he didn't he may well get the sack. It just so happens that as far as the non-Eve world is concerned he represents CCP. How does it reflect on CCP when they pay the expenses of a man who publicly calls for one of their customers to be hounded to the point of suicide? Quote: If an elected politician (even a politician as insignificant as a parish councillor) did what he did, then he would be called upon to resign and might end up getting the party whip withdrawn. It just so happens that he was elected to represent a consituency larger than many politicians'. Oh man, my sides! Do you SERIOUSLY think UK Politics work like this? (I can tell because you said whip). They usually apologise, then the story gets spun so hard that nothing of value is lost. That or they get 're-assigned' to a new post. If you still think this happens, then you citizen, have a lot more faith in politics than the majority of others.
Lenrir Andven Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation 19	Posted - 2012.03.28 15:41:00 - [19] - Quote Rodj Blake wrote: Lenrir Andven wrote: Rodj Blake wrote: Cyber SGB wrote: I didn't know who this guy was until fanfest. Sure, getting drunk and spouting off like this was inappropriate behavior. He has apologized for it and if he curbs his behavior in the future, done deal. There is no need for him to resign or do anything else that would satisfy certain people's lust for blood. I am seeing a whole bunch of people on these forums who should be ashamed of themselves. I am very shocked to be reading people actually calling for lawyers and law enforcement to get involved. If you call his behavior wrong, how can you justify trying to ruin this person's life over such a trivial matter? It is trivial. It is obvious to me that most of you wait for any opportunity to do harm to this guy in real life. All because of this video game. It appears that people have gone stupid in this day and age. If an elected politician (even a politician as insignificant as a parish councillor) did what he did, then he would be called upon to resign and might end up getting the party whip withdrawn. It just so happens that he was elected to represent a consituency larger than many politicians'. If anyone representing a company did what he did, then he would also be called upon to resign and if he didn't he may well get the sack. It just so happens that as far as the non-Eve world is concerned he represents CCP. How does it reflect on CCP when they pay the expenses of a man who publicly calls for one of their customers to be hounded to the point of suicide? Quote: If an elected politician (even a politician as insignificant as a parish councillor) did what he did, then he would be called upon to resign and might end up getting the party whip withdrawn. It just so happens that he was elected to represent a consituency larger than many politicians'. Oh man, my sides! Do you SERIOUSLY think UK Politics work like this? (I can tell because you said whip). They usually apologise, then the story gets spun so hard that nothing of value is lost. That or they get 're-assigned' to a new post. If you still think this happens, then you citizen, have a lot more faith in politics than the majority of others. On the contrary, British politicians have had to resign from the Cabinet or Shadow Cabinet in the past because they were only accused of wrong-doing. Recent examples include Iain Duncan Smith, Chris Huhne and Peter Mandelson. Charles Kennedy even had to resign as Lib Dem leader because he liked the odd drink! It's true that they often return at a later date, but that's normally after a subsequent election. I'd be quite happy to see Mittens return to the CSM if the electorate demands it next time. Generally they are not the main villians though (though Peter Mandelson was a complete moron, was glad to see the back of him.) I mean all you have to look at is the current 'New of the world' scandal. Yes Andy Coulson resigned but it is heading towards a total whitewash, wouldn't be surprised if, one or two years, he is back in the fore-front again.
Lenrir Andven Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation 19	Posted - 2012.03.28 16:29:00 - [20] - Quote de4deye wrote: Marlona Sky wrote: I also would like to point out that Alex never slurs or stumble about. At 3:20 seconds of this video the following was said: "I, uh, suppose I'm not drunk enough." - Alex "No your not, I can hear your words clearly." - Someone in the audience or panel Which is correct. His entire presentation was very understandable with no word slurring or anything that would be signs of being drunk. What everyone here is assuming is he must have been drunk to say what he did about making The Wis kill himself. Alex even spells his name out with clarity and making sure no one misspells it with the letter Z. That's because he wasn't drunk - he's just an asshat. Still mad about the 3 Titans we popped last weekend NC?

Lenrir Andven Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation 19	Posted - 2012.03.28 16:44:00 - [21] - Quote Giuliano Verti wrote: Magnus Orin wrote: chumbucket wrote: Did he man up and fall on his own sword? 10000 votes dosent make him immune to self inflicted political suicide. He acted like an idiot he should pay the price for it. I love all the goon emo about not doing anything wrong should he be banned..... no should he be CSM player rep...... no who would want his guy representing them for anything after his little drunken tyraide....... Dude... He publicly apologized, gave the 'victim' 11billion isk, and apologized to him personally. Put down your fucking noose already. Just landed. Step one, apologize profusely. <<--- Check Step two, resign. <<<--- Still waiting Step three, send all my isk to the victim. <<--- Check And goons read this carefully: Entirely my fault and unacceptable. Yet you guys yap on and on about wanting him to go further on it. Maybe not you, but the majority does. As long as the rest of you scrubs call for more, we will step in to defend. Simple as.
Lenrir Andven Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation 19	Posted - 2012.03.28 16:45:00 - [22] - Quote RougeOperator wrote: Had my father watch the vid and he was shocked by what he saw and heard. He asked me why would i play a game with people like that in it. Yeah, I play with some great guys but even I had to double take that moment when my dad said that. Then your father must be a liberal.
Lenrir Andven Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation 21	Posted - 2012.03.28 16:50:00 - [23] - Quote Jade Constantine wrote: Lenrir Andven wrote: Giuliano Verti wrote: Magnus Orin wrote: chumbucket wrote: Did he man up and fall on his own sword? 10000 votes dosent make him immune to self inflicted political suicide. He acted like an idiot he should pay the price for it. I love all the goon emo about not doing anything wrong should he be banned..... no should he be CSM player rep...... no who would want his guy representing them for anything after his little drunken tyraide....... Dude... He publicly apologized, gave the 'victim' 11billion isk, and apologized to him personally. Put down your fucking noose already. Just landed. Step one, apologize profusely. <<--- Check Step two, resign. <<<--- Still waiting Step three, send all my isk to the victim. <<--- Check And goons read this carefully: Entirely my fault and unacceptable. Yet you guys yap on and on about wanting him to go further on it. Maybe not you, but the majority does. As long as the rest of you scrubs call for more, we will step in to defend. Simple as. I'm not sure thats true mr goon. I said from day one I wanted him to resign as chair and if he'd done it in a timely and dignified manner I was even happy for him to serve on the csm so the 10,000 votes were not wasted. But it hasn't stopped the swarm trying (admittedly very unsuccessfully) to flame my posting. It's hard to take time to change our approach when the majority want him to be banned.
Lenrir Andven Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation 21	Posted - 2012.03.28 16:51:00 - [24] - Quote de4deye wrote: Lenrir Andven wrote: Magnus Orin wrote: Reid Ardorei wrote: We've all made mistakes and talked completely out of our ass at times. I hold no ill will to the guy. Proud to give you your first like for a reasonable post. If only the rest of the rabble were also this reasonable. You having fun spamming non important garbage because your leader is in trouble and you are trying to distract from the issue? Psst, I think your forums are still leaking.
Lenrir Andven Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation 21	Posted - 2012.03.28 16:52:00 - [25] - Quote RougeOperator wrote: Lenrir Andven wrote: RougeOperator wrote: Had my father watch the vid and he was shocked by what he saw and heard. He asked me why would i play a game with people like that in it. Yeah, I play with some great guys but even I had to double take that moment when my dad said that. Then your father must be a liberal. Yeah no hes very conservative. Does that make it worse or better for you that he had that reaction? Oh wait it doesnt matter either way, most sane reasonable non evil people will have the same reaction. Then your father must be a carebear.
Lenrir Andven Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation 21	Posted - 2012.03.28 16:54:00 - [26] - Quote de4deye wrote: Lenrir Andven wrote: de4deye wrote: Lenrir Andven wrote: Magnus Orin wrote: Proud to give you your first like for a reasonable post. If only the rest of the rabble were also this reasonable. You having fun spamming non important garbage because your leader is in trouble and you are trying to distract from the issue? Psst, I think your forums are still leaking. Still, your leader is going to pay - there's nothing you can do about it. Deal with it~ Still, your titan pilots still suck at fits - there's nothing you can do about it. Deal with it~
Lenrir Andven Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation 21	Posted - 2012.03.28 16:57:00 - [27] - Quote de4deye wrote: Blatant Forum Alt wrote: de4deye wrote: Still, your leader is going to pay - there's nothing you can do about it. Deal with it~ I remember when Northern Coalition actually mattered in Eve... You're not a valid subscriber, you're a NPC alt. The opinions of NPC alts don't count for anything. ~10,058~ - Silly goon alts can't even take advice from their own leader =p Yeah...kinda like NC Titan Pilots...getting advice about how to fit their Titans....oh wait.
Lenrir Andven Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation 21	Posted - 2012.03.28 16:58:00 - [28] - Quote Suryne wrote: Lenrir Andven wrote: Still, your titan pilots still suck at fits - there's nothing you can do about it. Deal with it~ Holy ** it is so good to see goon tears pouring like Niagara falls! You ran out of all your bullshit arguments and are trying to drail this BUT you're in shock cause people don't give a ** about you. ROFL! oh and HTFU! Actually I just stopped caring about this threadnaught. A lot of the comments were already said earlier and everything that is being said now is just regurgitated from the previous comments. So instead of coming back with the same ,gentlemanly, British, cool reply, I decided to just give you guys the contempt you deserve.
Lenrir Andven Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation 21	Posted - 2012.03.28 17:02:00 - [29] - Quote Bane Necran wrote: Lenrir Andven wrote: Actually I just stopped caring about this threadnaught. Well, bye. Another insightful analysis by our local community.
Lenrir Andven Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation 21	Posted - 2012.03.28 17:03:00 - [30] - Quote de4deye wrote: Lenrir Andven wrote: de4deye wrote: Blatant Forum Alt wrote: de4deye wrote: Still, your leader is going to pay - there's nothing you can do about it. Deal with it~ I remember when Northern Coalition actually mattered in Eve... You're not a valid subscriber, you're a NPC alt. The opinions of NPC alts don't count for anything. ~10,058~ - Silly goon alts can't even take advice from their own leader =p Yeah...kinda like NC Titan Pilots...getting advice about how to fit their Titans....oh wait. Yes, because that has so much to do with Mittani telling everyone to convince a person to kill himself. Your logic is undeniable. Yes, the Mittani is really Satan in disguise. So when do you start accusing him of being Robert Mugabe in disguise? I believe the logic question is also related to your own. Edit: NC Titan Pilots not knowing how to fit their Titans has everything to do with this thread. It just confirms your opinions have no validity since you can not into EVE.

Lenrir Andven Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation 21	Posted - 2012.03.28 17:05:00 - [31] - Quote Suryne wrote: Kallynda Nai wrote: Suryne wrote: Lenrir Andven wrote: Still, your titan pilots still suck at fits - there's nothing you can do about it. Deal with it~ Holy ** it is so good to see goon tears pouring like Niagara falls! You ran out of all your bullshit arguments and are trying to drail this BUT you're in shock cause people don't give a about you. ROFL! oh and HTFU! Yes, a 190 page thread about people not caring. Your logic is astounding. We all care about one thing and not some random goonies trying to defend a ****. Logic is simple if you are capable of basic thinking. Yet you are responding to us, you must be in self-denial.
Lenrir Andven Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation 21	Posted - 2012.03.28 17:12:00 - [32] - Quote Suryne wrote: Lenrir Andven wrote: Suryne wrote: Kallynda Nai wrote: Suryne wrote: Holy ** it is so good to see goon tears pouring like Niagara falls! You ran out of all your bullshit arguments and are trying to drail this BUT you're in shock cause people don't give a about you. ROFL! oh and HTFU! Yes, a 190 page thread about people not caring. Your logic is astounding. We all care about one thing and not some random goonies trying to defend a ****. Logic is simple if you are capable of basic thinking. Yet you are responding to us, you must be in self-denial. I don't mind challenging your logic once in a while. It really just strenghtens my points stated in previous posts. You wish to challenge us, therefore using your 'vast' quantities of brain power to challenge us, in a delicate but beautiful battle which is fought upon the 'Logicfield'. I really don't get what you are trying to prove here but M'kay. Also 'ROFL! oh and HTFU' Accusing us of logic infallability when you write drivel like this, shame on you.
Lenrir Andven Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation 21	Posted - 2012.03.28 17:28:00 - [33] - Quote Princess Bride wrote: Xython wrote: Princess Bride wrote: There was an issue with parsing this post's BBCode This is by far the most coherent I've ever seen you. Keep it up. So I edited the original post which you must have missed. That's okay, I'll laugh my ass off again in this reply. Ready? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! No seriously, funniest pic EVA. Thank you to the guy who dug that up to give me the biggest laugh so far today! Wasn't this already on the eve wikipedia under 'The Mittani' anyway?
Lenrir Andven Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation 67	Posted - 2012.03.29 03:29:00 - [34] - Quote Jake Warbird wrote: Hello thread... How goes ye? We are doing fine citizen, how about yourself?
Lenrir Andven Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation 85	Posted - 2012.03.30 06:13:00 - [35] - Quote War Bear wrote: Goons and the like are angry that their votes went up in smoke, their leader bowed out of the CSM and there's a 30 day ban in place. On the other side of the coin people are angry Mittens will still be in the game, that he went too far and isn't honestly sorry. I say CCP handled it just fine. Both sides are p!ssed off which means a middle ground has been reached. That's why I'm bemused about what is going on. Majority of the goons are slowly growing content to the current situation. Since after all, we recieved our orders and now have a goal to work towards (it's been really slow before the announcement.) The vote thing is a bit of a grey issue and I already spoken to a few neutrals on that issue, who all say 'well, it could of been dealt with better, maybe add a 'second choice' next time.'
Lenrir Andven Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation 86	Posted - 2012.03.30 07:40:00 - [36] - Quote RougeOperator wrote: http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-trayvon-martin-lee-settlement-20120329,0,7063902.story But how was spike lee supposed to know people would take his twitter seriously. It was on just a twitter post. Why would people have to flee their home in fear over that. Notice how Spike lee got sued and had to face the music for his irresponsible actions that put people at risk. Just some food for thought. Got a fetish for mittani? Geez you're special.

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